Putting My Foot In It....
I managed to go nearly the whole of 2004 without offending, annoying or upsetting anyone (apart from those I intended to offend, annoy or upset of course!)
Then last night "Gazza" posted this on the Mob forum:
Tsunami Relief Tourney on Stars
Posted by Gazza on 29/12/2004, 10:02 pm
A private tournament has been arranged on PokerStars with half of the prize pool to be donated to the International Red Cross to aid those effected by the Tsunami.
The tournament is to be held at 11PM GMT this Sunday (2nd Jan). The password is zoohelp
For more details please see here.
I was immdiately repulsed.
I felt it was totally inappropriate to run a poker tournament to raise money for this disaster.
Poker can easily be seen as a metaphor with what's wrong with the Western world. Greed, decadence and laziness. Tens of thousands of people are dying and we run a poker tournament. It just didn't feel right.
I had to stick my oar in:
Ugh
Posted by The Camel on 29/12/2004, 10:08 pm
Tens of thousands of people die and some bright spark decides to organise a poker tournament to raise money for victims.
Is it just me who thinks this is tasteless in the extreme?
Just make a donation if that's what you want to do. But don't play a poker tournament in memorial of those who died. It is unbelieveably tacky IMO.
I also notice pokerstars are taking $1 per player. Classy.
The way I saw it, if you want to give money to the disaster that's all very laudable, but do you really need to be prompted to give something by playing a poker tournament?
Gazza and I went backwards and forwards a couple of times and then I went to bed.
When I turned the computer on this morning I had softened my stance appreciably and realised it is better to give something, however small, by playing this tournament than nothing.
I wasn't prepared for the litany of abuse I had suffered on the forum:
Vlad reckoned "I suck"
Byron Kincaid called me "a prat"
Anthony claimed I was "point scoring"
Overnight Pokerstars had agreed to not rake the event (good news), Lee Jones donated $500 of his own money to the fund (Not a surprise, he is without doubt, a classy guy) but they had also added extra prizes of hats and jackets to final tablists.
Aggressive Flair summed it all up rather cynically, but correctly:
Re: Extra prizes and Donations added by PokerStars and Lee Jones
Posted by Aggressive Flair on 30/12/2004, 2:51 pm
Will the luxury leather wool jacket be embossed with a tastefull logo depicting a large wave?
What about a nice trophy aswell.I love collecting trophies.You can keep the hats.
It is perhaps the fact the winner will make maybe $500 from winning the event which I find most distasteful and to top it off it will have a nice, cosy jacket to remember his achievement by. If there was no tsunami, he would never have made the money. Surely it would be more tasteful for all the players to just give the $11 to oxfam or the Red Cross or whoever?
Do I wish I had never made my original post on hm? Definitely.
Do I think the event is tasteless in the extreme? Yes.
Is playing this tournament better than giving nothing? Of course.
Then last night "Gazza" posted this on the Mob forum:
Tsunami Relief Tourney on Stars
Posted by Gazza on 29/12/2004, 10:02 pm
A private tournament has been arranged on PokerStars with half of the prize pool to be donated to the International Red Cross to aid those effected by the Tsunami.
The tournament is to be held at 11PM GMT this Sunday (2nd Jan). The password is zoohelp
For more details please see here.
I was immdiately repulsed.
I felt it was totally inappropriate to run a poker tournament to raise money for this disaster.
Poker can easily be seen as a metaphor with what's wrong with the Western world. Greed, decadence and laziness. Tens of thousands of people are dying and we run a poker tournament. It just didn't feel right.
I had to stick my oar in:
Ugh
Posted by The Camel on 29/12/2004, 10:08 pm
Tens of thousands of people die and some bright spark decides to organise a poker tournament to raise money for victims.
Is it just me who thinks this is tasteless in the extreme?
Just make a donation if that's what you want to do. But don't play a poker tournament in memorial of those who died. It is unbelieveably tacky IMO.
I also notice pokerstars are taking $1 per player. Classy.
The way I saw it, if you want to give money to the disaster that's all very laudable, but do you really need to be prompted to give something by playing a poker tournament?
Gazza and I went backwards and forwards a couple of times and then I went to bed.
When I turned the computer on this morning I had softened my stance appreciably and realised it is better to give something, however small, by playing this tournament than nothing.
I wasn't prepared for the litany of abuse I had suffered on the forum:
Vlad reckoned "I suck"
Byron Kincaid called me "a prat"
Anthony claimed I was "point scoring"
Overnight Pokerstars had agreed to not rake the event (good news), Lee Jones donated $500 of his own money to the fund (Not a surprise, he is without doubt, a classy guy) but they had also added extra prizes of hats and jackets to final tablists.
Aggressive Flair summed it all up rather cynically, but correctly:
Re: Extra prizes and Donations added by PokerStars and Lee Jones
Posted by Aggressive Flair on 30/12/2004, 2:51 pm
Will the luxury leather wool jacket be embossed with a tastefull logo depicting a large wave?
What about a nice trophy aswell.I love collecting trophies.You can keep the hats.
It is perhaps the fact the winner will make maybe $500 from winning the event which I find most distasteful and to top it off it will have a nice, cosy jacket to remember his achievement by. If there was no tsunami, he would never have made the money. Surely it would be more tasteful for all the players to just give the $11 to oxfam or the Red Cross or whoever?
Do I wish I had never made my original post on hm? Definitely.
Do I think the event is tasteless in the extreme? Yes.
Is playing this tournament better than giving nothing? Of course.